Religious Conversions and Attacks on Humanity

When MNS's Raj Thackeray use violence to 'protect' locals, we shout 'against' him. If the same tactics are used by BJP, VHP and Bajrang Dal against other religions, we 'support' them. Same cause...opposite reactions.

When Marketing companies convert us (continuously) from one product to other (at times even abusing the competitor product), we convert willingly without thinking about the process/means used for conversion. We prefer to be converted by marketing companies from using Pottery, Khadi clothes, Shikakai, Barathanatyam, Kathakali, Full Meals and other traditional practices to the newer ones like Tupperware, Denims, Hair Conditioners, Salsas, Pizzas and the likes. We are rather happy to market alien products (at the cost of our tradition), get hefty salaries and go on world tour with the 'converted' money. We are ready to accept these conversions (which directly affect us), than the religious conversions, which are third party ones.

As an atheist, I'm against religions and religious conversions. But when innocent people (though they are religious) are being attacked and killed for ulterior motives, the perpetrators need to be exposed of their hollow fundamentals.

My dear fellow human beings, religion and religious conversions are nothing but business these days. As west has almost rejected religion, Christian religious leaders are now looking at new avenues for funding. They find their target crowd in Asia and Africa. In India they find the disadvantaged section as the soft target. This section which is being kept away from entering temples by one section of Hindu population, find solace in another religion. There starts the exploitation and the control war.

The point to be noted here is; the revenue base is shrinking for both the groups. Hence their leaders are making their moves to either expand their revenue base or retain it at any cost. The result is the suffering, heightened tension and loss of lives & property of the already marginalized. The sufferers continue to suffer and the leaders live a cosy life exploiting them more.

The only solution for this problem is…shun religion and embrace Humanism.

Related reading: who CREATED god?

previous posting >>> Allah – the most powerful God ?!

Bible – needs revision?

Though I don’t accept Bible as a holy scripture, I feel the time has come for its revision atleast…

When we write against incest relationships in discussion forums, they (those who like/support incest relationship) immediately give reference of incest relationships in Bible.

As per them, population increased, because the first family (Adam, Eve and their children) practiced incest. Why should Bible condone such incident and set precedent. There are also other references of incest like Noah family and Lot.

Its true that we don’t have a rosy picture of our sexual past, but the collective wisdom of generations be commended for creating a social order. When we look at the mushrooming of incest & other abnormal sexual groups in the social networking space, it’s alarming. The incest lovers take an easy escape route, pointing out the incidents quoted in the religious books.

Thus, as mentioned earlier, religion and its scriptures look more sinister than divine. As we move forward towards humanism/atheism, we need to discard or revise those, which are impediments, like the Bible.

Related Reading: Abnormal Sexual Behaviour

Is this universe an Illusion?

Theists believe God created humans.

Atheists would ask “who CREATED god?”

Millions of years have passed and there is no concrete info about God or his impending arrival. We neither know why we are born nor what we will be after death. Still for millions of years, many have gone through this unknown process (birth/death) too.

What exactly is this birth and death for? As mentioned in my first blog post here, “(if god created humans) whether there was a REAL NEED to create human beings?”. What really happened to those who are dead in these million years? How many of them are dead? Are they (dead) really not concerned about what is happening on earth even after experiencing it? Or is the ID creator insane and also very much egoistic to listen to the dead messengers? What prevents him from establishing an ideal world? Why is he not interested to visit this world often and correct the deviants? Why is he waiting for long? Why can’t the billions of dead atleast come back once and say what actually is life? Is this universe a playground? Is this world an Illusion? Too many senseless questions… LOL

Got scared. Be Cool, bcos atleast one process is relatively known to us. ie the period between our birth and death. Let us make the most of it. Go and have some beer and enjoy this beautiful world.

Give scientists a chance

For long religion in one form or other has tried to justify the existence of god. However it has failed miserably.

One hot topic, which sent shivers down the spine during school days, was the impending end of world and return of god by the end of century. That never happened. We have since then moved to different levels (like theists, atheists, agnostics, etc). I prefer to call myself an atheist now, because as mentioned in my first post here, I doubt the basic INTENTION. Even if this so called God returns in future, I won’t value him as god, because the intention was not right. For this reason I feel comfortable being identified as an atheist than an agnostic.

Now that for many years we followed religion and still not able to see god in flesh and blood, isn’t it time for us to follow and support the scientific community in its endeavor to find the source of universe? Science in its shorter span was able to give more concrete evidences and possibilities, than religion. As religion has been static in identifying the real source of life, I back the dynamic science to forge further in this endeavor and unravel the mystery surrounding us. (If not me, atleast the future generation shall benefit)

Till then (for me), neither i know the purpose of my birth nor i know what i will be after my death. As long as am alive, let my intentions be pure...

Who CREATED god?

I asked the priest: who CREATED god?

The priest was shocked and could not digest that question. He recuperated and asked: “Will you renounce atheism, if god appears in flesh and blood now?”

I said: “Yes – only after I get convincing answers for few of my questions and effect few changes on earth”.

He prayed and after few minutes, god was there. The priest apologized to god for requisitioning him to this EVIL world and explained the situation.

God said: “Okay my son, shoot your questions”

I asked him: “Who created you?”

God thought for a moment and said: “Well I’ll come back to that later”. Now tell me, if you are given a chance to effect a change in this world, “what will you opt for?”

I thought for a moment and answered:

“Fulfillment of INDIVIDUAL desires (one at a time) without affecting another individual. The process will be a world (without a savings account), where individual desires are fulfilled on continuous basis. If Tom or Dick or Harry need a palatial bungalow, they will get it immediately. If they need a cruise liner, they will get that the next moment. But the bungalow will vanish immediately. Thus the need is fulfilled immediately without giving room for greed/saving. After enjoying everything on earth; Tom, Dick & Harry may reach the self-actualization stage one day and opt for death…”

God thought about it for a moment and informed the priest to bring some water to sprinkle on me…

After some time I could feel the water being splashed on my face and a roar: “come on you dreamer, it is 8.30am and we have a client call today at 9.15am”.

previous >> 3007 AD

Death of Religion

Apropos to my question - WHO CREATED GOD ?, as more and more take to rational thinking, religion will have a natural death.

Hope the god in question appears in flesh and blood fast; save the face/'business' of religious preachers and rub salt on people like me...

Exclusive God ?

Presence of God in not proved yet. In such a situation, X or Y god is itself an imagination. If an imagination can be true, then the claims of a particular section that X-God is a bachelor/spinster and would like to stay away opposite sex should also hold true, until the god himself/herself appears in flesh and blood and clarify otherwise...

If we are ready to accept a non-existent / not-seen figure, is it not right to accept a belief too (Exclusive God) ???

My views are not meant to hurt anyone, but purely an objective outlook...

Visionary Intention

Dave,

Many of us live in a false world of wrong assumptions and dance to the tunes of fear.

When we rate a living being based on his/her/its intention, why not question the fundamentals?

When an instrument created goes wrong, a sensible human will immediately try to rectify the same. Read the INTENTION.

If a mortal has sense to reverse his wrong doing, why not God (who has control over everything)? Why there has been a long wait? It raises various 'senseless' assumptions.

One such is: 'Remember the fights in the film Gladiator (the best of the species get the privilege to watch gory).'

I repeat, the above is only a SENSELESS assumption.

My question was simple and straight:
"Whether there was a REAL need for the creator? Is he not divine enough to predict the gory future and stop it in the beginning itself?"

Why did not God force love? Why was Lucifer/wicked-thinking allowed or even created? Read the INTENTION.

“LOVE IS GOD” is more relevant than “God is Love”.

- donkeySOUP


Msg posted by Dave in catholicquestions:

God is a Family. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is the Trinity: three Persons in one divine nature. The Father and Son share love for each other and give each other so much love that the love they give eternally is the distinct divine Person of the Holy Spirit. God created the heavens out of love and He created His creatures to love and to be loved. True love is not forced, it is a choice and so God gave His creatures free-will so that they could choose to love Him or not to love Him. Lucifer filled with pride wanted to be greater than God and chose not to love God but rather took him and his followers to spite God. God created the world and animals then decided to make a creature in His own image "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" that mankind could then share in the love of the Trinity -so with similarities of the Trinity - husband and wife share a love so deep that when they become one the love they share becomes a distinct person; however Lucifer tempted Adam and Eve so that they would fall into sin and they did...
however God choose not to start all over or to wipe out the human race but rather used the fall of Adam and Eve to eventually give Lucifer the biggest blow of giving Mary the grace of being immaculately conceived to undue the knots of Eve so that she would be a worthy dwelling place for God the Father's Son who would become flesh and defeat Satan by offering His own Body and Blood to mankind so that they could participate in the family of God which is now being
lived out through the Church.

God is love.

Definition – Evolution !!!

The way intersectional ideas evolve and being pursued for implementation, we can imagine a different world tomorrow. A human-being may travel from Chennai to Chicago without any artificial travel support. He may run faster than Cheetah to replace a motor-vehicle. Have endurance like a Camel to travel long without being exhausted. Fly like an intercontinental Siberian Crane to cross water bodies and mountains. If human is supposed to be a byproduct of a single cell, then in future he will even grow wings and fly. The fusion of genes will be more complex and advanced, that he will use his different abilities/skills in an intelligent way without getting exhausted.

Though the above looks like a crude fantasy, the emerging individualistic life style, frequent traffic-snarls and the depleting energy reserves may force future generations to look at such alternative avenues - whether to this extent of going far beyond natural is doubtful (?), but when the human being has started to deviate from the natural such changes are bound to happen. What is acknowledged as natural today (due to achieving the critical mass) was not considered a natural activity earlier. [Definition of 'Marriage' in a dictionary is a legal union between a man and a woman. Today a marriage can be between same sexes (No slight intended). Tomorrow it could be between different species???].

If such a scene becomes a reality, how do we DEFINE such “beings”?

Should I feel happy for having born earlier???

- donkeySOUP